Today we’re going to talk about how you can spot the many scams that are running rampant in the internet marketing world, and how you can avoid being sucked in. As I mentioned in the last post, this is all part of our little crusade and the preparation for the new version of IM Success Formula.
A few comments on the last post asked me to name and shame people… I won’t do that though. Not because I don’t dare, but because it defies the purpose of this lesson. If I gave you a list of names to avoid, it would just give you false security… what about the hundreds of bad products I didn’t name (products not even launched yet)? … What I want to do is give you an understanding of how the market is today and how you can weed out the bad stuff whenever you see it.
You’ve seen the countless number of scammy products released last year (and a stunning amount already in January this year) – You know what I’m talking about… the blind sales letters promising you thousands of dollars at the click of a mouse, without telling you anything about what you are actually buying.
This all started with the recession hitting and for good reason… Suddenly there were (and still are) millions of people all over the world losing their jobs, losing their houses, not able to make their car payments etc. In other words a lot of people who desperately need to make some extra cash right now! People who are new to IM – they don’t want to buy information, scripts or tools, they want to buy HOPE. But it’s not only the newbies who get sucked in, a lot of more seasoned marketers have fallen for the BS too – some of these products have sold over 40,000 copies! Of course the more shady side of internet marketing caught on fast and…
Here’s How The Scumbags Operate…
- They launch product after product (usually only months apart, if that), because none of their stuff is actually sustainable. They don’t make money from their “teachings”, they need the product launches.
- They cater to negative emotions like desperation and frustration, offering hope and dreams
- The systems they sell do not work. These guys sit around masterminding what you would buy – then they create the whole sales process… only then do they “create” some random junk product to justify the rip off.
- The “product” only has to good enough to avoid too many refunds – but in fact they are counting on the vast majority of customers to never use it. The product is an afterthought in this process!
- They don’t use these “systems” themselves – all the Clickbank income shots on their sales page are from their other launches.
- The product you purchase is just a teaser. It is designed to be just enough for you to grasp the concept, but leaving you unable to apply it, unless you buy the upsells.
- The product is priced low (usually $37). In itself is not a bad thing, but in this case it’s all about sucking as many people in to the upsells as possible.
- They will usually also have a gazillion exit pop ups, offering you the exact same product at increasing discounts.
- And the list goes on… but this is already getting too depressing
A Word On Automation
Overly simplified you can say that, in order to make money online you need: a website that takes orders and you need traffic to that website. Both sides of that equation can be automated to some degree.
You can buy ready-made websites, site builders etc. to get a site – and you can have traffic software that automatically submits to say articles sites. In both cases it’s rarely 100% automated though, there’s still some setting up or writing of articles. But if a product promises to automate one of the things (site or traffic), it’s not necessarily evil. There are very good products out there that can do this (or at least make your task a whole lot easier). The shit hits the proverbial fan when a product promises you to automate everything.
Let me be honest with you here… If I ever developed a system that would automate both traffic and site/selling (and I’m still trying) – I wouldn’t sell it, ever! If I could press a button and make thousands, I would keep pressing that button instead of worrying about a product launch.
Here’s an example, we have a product called Clickbank Pirate. It automates the selling side of things, but you have to drive the traffic. If we could do both (with traffic in sufficient numbers) there would be no reason for us to sell that. But in this case we need people to drive traffic, and they need our system to monetize their traffic.
Bottomline… beware of people telling you that everything is automated and works with the click of a mouse. Such a system does not exist – and if it does… it doesn’t work!
How To Spot The Bad “Products
This is fortunately very easy, when you apply some of the logic we spoke about in the last post. Here are the tell-tale warning signs to look for:
- The sales copy is completely blind – meaning it does not tell you what the product actually is.
- Instead it tells you everything it’s not, or what you don’t have to do (without mentioning what you have to do).
- There’s usually some fake scarcity tactic – with only 300 copies available (all the while they are mailing their JV partners gloating about 2000 copies sold in the first hour)
- The copy is filled with income “proof” – endless amounts of screenshots that aren’t created by the product they are selling (just proof of their success as product launchers or image thieves).
- You see the same guy launching a product month after month. If their shit worked he wouldn’t have to (note that there are exceptions to this rule, some very prolific marketers churn out a lot of good stuff)
- It promises income without work. Click a few buttons, exploit this loophole etc.
There’s an old saying: “if it’s too good to be true, it usually is” and that is 100% correct. And let me add to that: “if you don’t know what you a buying, then don’t press the bloody order button!”
Hype Is Not Always Bad
Don’t get me wrong, this is marketing and we’re all marketers. We’re supposed to sell stuff (and make our wares look appealing). There’s nothing wrong with hype and clever marketing, done right! The key is to actually have a good product that works and to be honest in your sales pitch – then you can gloss it up as much as you like (and in fact you should).
Just think of shampoo commercials… A bottle of expensive designer shampoo is not going to make me a supermodel, but damn it, it will wash my hair… without the need to buy the upsell. In this case the upsell would be the conditioner, which compliments and enhances the shampoo, but is not needed to make it work. And they never actually promise to make you a supermodel, they just happen to have pretty people on the telly
On the other hand… You can dress up a turd as much as you like, but it’s still just a turd.
Clickbank Pirate As An Example
If we look at Clickbank Pirate again you’ll notice a few things that separate our sales copy from the scumbag’s.
- It clearly tells you what you are buying, what you get, and gives details about the various components.
- It tells you what you don’t have to do, what is automated – but more importantly it does tell you what YOU have to do, in this case drive the traffic.
- The income proof on the site is actually real – in fact none of these scumbags would ever consider using screenshots like that.
- What do you think about the criteria and examples I used above
- Have you been burned by any of these scams, have you learned from it
- Got anything to add, better ways to spot and filter out the crap?
- Anything at all – we want your feedback
Yes it’s hyped up – but the hype is backed by a solid product. I’m not saying this to get you to rush and buy it – more to illustrate the difference in marketing. But with a product like Clickbank Pirate you have the ability to see what you are getting and then make an informed decision whether your need it or not… With one of the scammy products you don’t have that ability and they are banking on the fact that you have to buy it to know what’s in it!
Another Example
Dylan Loh, Edmund Loh and Tony Sanders recently launched a new product called Clickbank Gamers – a very good product, about cashing in on a very hot niche.
When you look at the sales page for Clickbank Gamers you’ll notice that, at first glance, it looks a lot like the scammy products mentioned above. They have clearly opted to follow a template and price point, that has been proven to work (albeit mostly for scammy stuff), and you can’t really blame them for doing it that way.
But if you actually look at the sales page you’ll notice that the copy is not blind, they tell you exactly what you are buying. And they don’t use BS tactics like fake scarcity, discount pop ups etc. I happen to know that the proof on the page is very real too – that is screen shots of Tony’s various accounts and stats (from selling in this niche).
Anyway… Just wanted to show you that even though a product that “looks” like some of the scammy one, it can be a great product. It is not enough to look at the site “template” – you have to read the page to be sure. But remember the golden rule: “if they don’t tell you what you are buying – run away fast!”
I also wanted to get this point across… You should not stop buying products altogether. If you want to run an internet marketing business, you need knowledge, information, scripts and tools (there’s no way around that); but I want you to start thinking about what you buy…
Stop Buying This Stuff!
We’ve now armed you with some knowledge and tools that will help you avoid some of the crap out there. But here’s the thing.
Last time I checked it was NOT illegal to sell a sub-par product, and you have to be really bad to be shut down for misleading advertising (they government has no way of effectively policing that online anyway). And the capitalist inside me can blame the scam peddlers, they are filling a “want” in the market and it’s not that different from some of the other weird stuff people waste their money on.
Fact is that as long as it’s profitable to launch these crappy products, people will keep launching them. The only way we can rid internet marketing of this cancer… is if you stop buying the products!
Use the logic I talked about in last post, combined with the lessons here today and start voting with your mouse fingers, don’t buy into the scams. And tell your friends to do the same, it’s the only way we can change this.
This post is already getting way too long, so I’d better turn it over to you…
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- Soren Jordansen, John Merrick & Cindy Battye
I love this post! It is easy to spot these products now that I have been in IM for a while —but embarrassing to say — they still trick me sometimes. These guys are VERY GOOD at being enticing. I am always interested to stay on top of the latest and greatest = lots of wasted money.
Bottom line is: A “hungry crowd” (thanks Travis Sago for teaching me this) + an informative site that is offering empathy and help + traffic + list === SALES!
People forget when sitting behind a computer sometimes – that we are talking to REAL people with Real problems and when you stop trying to SELL and start trying to HELP — this is where the money is!!
Thanks for all your great info and the time you take to help others. Exactly the reason I just built my first Internet Marketing Tips Free Site
Lisa Hayslett
Well said Lisa – I think that happens WAY too much ,where people just become different people when online. It is like road rage… but, even worse sometimes because with road rage, you actually see the people’s faces (making u realise that it is actually people out there).
So, yes – I think it happens on both sides… I think that some of the website creators have forgotten that YES, these are real people with real needs. They are not just credit card details – specially designed to buy their next shiny car… lol.
There is also the other side of it though too, with people who purchase products taking their anger, frustration etc out against product owners (even owners of great products). It would curl your toes to see what our support team have to deal with sometimes – and usually it is over some little thing, like… they can’t find a file, or misplaced a password…
It would be awesome if people could just take a step back sometimes before doing any dealings online and just evaluate what kind of person you think you are, and then how the actions you are taking and how that affects how other people perceive what kind of person you are too.
Catch ya Lisa!
Cindy
Thank you so much for this information. I haven’t fallen prey, as of yet, and so far I’ve only downloaded a few “free” programs in order to learn IM and to see if the programs I’ve downloaded actually do what they’re supposed to do. I’m still in the process of learning, and until I know exactly what I’m doing and how to do it, only then will I make a sound, informative decision to purchase. You folks are at the top of the list so far in my “decision” bank!
Well, well, well. Did I jump the wrong way? Only read the last post at the same time as this one. Very interesting to see not only what comments there are but who submitted them. Developments will be very interesting. Thanks for your insight.
Hey Diane,
Great to see you here – even if you did come in slightly late.. hehe
all good! And yes, I would definitely like to hear your input over
the next few weeks!
- Cindy
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It’s commendable and somewhat informative to have you post these helpful tips to avoid being scammed. But unless IM’s like yourself start to back up this data with names and websites of these scammers we that are constantly fooled by these scammers will continue to lay out large sums of money $27,$37,$49,$97 at a time. IS
(internet scammers) have found a way to draw gallons of blood from the public one once at a time. The industry must be policed by the legitimate marketers or eventually it will lose what little credibility it has left. Expose the cheats and people will once again start to believe in the honest IM’s. Also cut back on some of the products you promote. It’s uncanny how someone signs up for a program and suddenly you are promoting a long list of affiliates that have developed a winning software that will be featured on a webinar where there are only 300 positions opened for the presentation. IM’s are doing what brick and mortar retailers were doing in the 70′s and 80′s with the word “sale” you are over promoting and eventually people will not believe in anything that you have to sell no matter how honest you sound.
Hey Bill
As Soren said (which I think is a massively valid point), it is not
about giving you a blacklist of names/products etc to avoid, because
there really isn’t a massive amount of benefit in that – yes, we could
give you a list, but what happens when there is a new product released
tomorrow, and next week, and 6 months from now.
Our mission here is to train you to be able to spot the scams for yourselves,
this way you are equipped not just now, knowing what to avoid – but also
in the future.
It’s the whole ‘Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, Teach him how
to fish and he’ll eat forever’ thing – yep, it is a little more work for you,
cause you need to process the information, but trust me… it is well worth
it!
- Cindy
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I agree with every word you said Soren. There are many unethical but legal info product creatorions online. Unfortunately they cant be sued/closed down due to the fine-print they have on their sites (disclaimers etc). Awareness among customers is the only way forward. Especially newbies need to be more careful as most of them are desperately looking for “easy & fast income”.
I honestly admire your products. They are down to earth & they really work! I am already a member of DNI. Will be buying CBP & ASB very soon. I love your marketing advice & products. Many thanks to you & Cindy
Hey Niranjan! I am glad you are enjoying DNI
and am pretty certain that
you are going to also like the new IMSF. Please help us out though, by keeping on giving us your input – and look out for the survey coming up.
Cheers!
Cindy
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Very good article I always believed that especially newbies should be taught about internet scams before they buy a computer. If you could get to them before they get online that would put those scammers out of business until they find another way.
Take Care
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Hi Annette,
I think that things are changing (slowly)… I know, here in Australia, that
there are internet safety lessons here as part of the core curriculum
for every student in primary school.
Would be great to see more of these initiatives trained (and willingly
accessed) by the general public too. Thing is, learning = stretching
yourself, which not everyone is comfortable doing. Oooh, which is
also why I am super happy that there are so many of you guys here
on the blog, because it means that you are willing to learn, understand
and hopefully grow as a result. Great stuff!
- Cindy
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You wrote a great post, and since I fell for a few of these sh… products myself I knew exactly what you were referring to. The way that I am using now, and feel safe and never buy another worthless crap is to check this forum: http://www.warriorforum.com/internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings/- by simply typing the name of the product that I am pondering to buy. This will safe you lots of time, and prevent you from buying the next useless crap…
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Hey Willem!
Yep, the Warrior Forum is a good place to do a quick look over what people
are saying. You just need to take what you read with a grain of salt. You
will often find a bunch of people in there who are just saying things to jump
on a bandwagon, some people who don’t even look at the product, but just
want to ‘pad out their post count’, or look like they are all experienced, but
haven’t given the product a good go.
If there are people saying that it is not a great program, or it fails to deliver,
etc… well, use that as a bit of a warning to watch closely for the pointers that
Soren mentioned in his post.
I am really not discounting the Warrior Forum, it is a great place to learn,
get excellent information and network with like-minded people. I am just
saying… be cautious about any advice that you take (yep – even ours)… test
what you see yourself. Once you have learned what to look for, you will
be better equipped to trust your inner ‘judge’.
On the topic… Malcolm Gladwell wrote a sweet book about the power of the
first impression, that inner gut feeling you have – and how to recognise it,
and why it makes sense to go with it. Interesting reading! Here is an amazon
link if you wanted to check it out (not an affiliate link)
=> http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316010669/
Cheers!
Cindy
- Cindy
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Thanks good advise. I think I’ll continue with a blog on my site on this topic as well. I have followed you for awhile now. Good job!!
Great post! In addition to common sense, I have 3 methods that I use to help me evaluate an offer.
1. The first thing I do after opening a page is to close the page right away. I immediately find out if there is a lower price, payment plans, or alternate offers. If the page closes clean, I can always go back to my history file and open it back up. Also, I often scroll right to the end and work my way up. If it’s way too long with a ton of testimonials and Clickbank screenshots (or pictures of some guy’s fancy car or house), I just don’t bother. I want to know exactly what a product WILL do and how much it will cost me. Oh, and videos without a timeline or controls, forget it, I won’t bother with it.
2. I check out any affiliate links the product may have. This doesn’t always apply to all IM products, but with other products, such as some health or self-help products that offer the answer to all your problems for only $97, if I see an affiliate link, I check it out. It’s amazing what information one can find there. Launch schedules, commission rates, and email templates. It helps me figure out the real value.
3. I check a forum such as Warrior Forum. While not necessarily the last word in all that is internet marketing, I often discover that a launch promoted as “new” was promoted as “new” 6 months ago (or even a year ago). Often, you’ll get a sense of who’s really behind the product and how trustworthy and responsive they are. Obviously, many “review” forums are really designed to promote rather than review, so it’s difficult to find good true reviews of a product. It takes some research.
While I haven’t taken advantage of every offer you and your team have launched, I at least read through your offers with a sense of confidence. You have gained my trust and trust doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time, consistent quality, and delivering more than what’s offered rather than less. To me, that’s common sense and it seems to be your approach also. I appreciate your efforts.
Ken
Hey Ken,
Those are some handy tricks! I appreciate you
taking the time to share them with us
- Cindy
P.S. Thank you also for your vote of confidence!
Cindy Battye recently posted..How To Spot The Internet Marketing Scams
Love your posts Cindy/Soren – ’bout time this started going very public instead of just talking about it over drinks and nice to see it coming from you guys. We’ve put stuff on our blogs too and I just retweeted you
It all comes down to the Golden Rule which has been around for ages… treat others how you’d want to be treated.
Hopefully this helps a good number of people to stop buying these kind of fales hope empty shell products.
Sad to see so many JVs that keep promoting them though, I’ve cut quite a few ties the past year cause it seems some people I thought were ‘good guys’ have gone to the ‘dark side’.
You guys always have great stuff and I admire you guys for taking this issue public.
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This is so true! My mailbox is filled daily with these kinds of products. Sometimes I wonder how they are creating them so fast. You really need to do your research before you purchase a product.
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Hi Soren,
Another post that hits the nail right on the head.Glad there is finally a group of marketers that are doing something about the state of this industry and not to soon, I might add.
Jules
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I saw a surge of these products during the last half of 2010 and are still poping up in 2011. I bought a couple of them last year. Boy, the’re true crap! I have noticed that they are mostly coming from Europe, the UK in particular… why is that? Anyway, thx for the post… it has been long overdue.
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Great post! I came to the same conclusion about the scammers quite some time ago.
95% of effort put into sales letter and website, complete with greed icons. McMansions,
yachts, piles and piles of money, etc.
Common sense says that what they claim is improbable at best, more like impossible.
Also, if their systems are so great, why are they peddling them? Anyone who made a
system like the ones being promoted actually work, would guard with their life.
I use one mouse click too. off their site. FAST!
Thanks you so much for your comments! GOOD GRIEF!!! The amount of scams going on in the IM marketplace has reached epic proportions! And (IM) people I used to repsect, many of them have turn into whores…pimping every other scams artists’ products as well as their own. It leaves me exhausted, discouraged and (until recently until I had finally had ENOUGH) often out of cash.
Anyway, about Phantom Link Cloaker…..I am going to make this purchase next pay day. I’m looking forward to working with the product.
Thanks again for you insights and advice.
Kind Regards,
PQuann
Hi,
I couldn’t agree more, there are no end of bullshit products out there that promise the world and deliver nothing, more importantly like you quite rightly say, they give you next to no details on how they work.
I am never taken in by these products as like yourselves, I know that success comes from hard work and NOTHING decent is given away for free. I understand that if it was then nobody would make any money.
However, to add balance into the mix the consumers themselves need to take a long hard look at themselves, stop expecting to make money whilst sat on their behinds and roll their sleeves up by building a reputation on line with inbound links, internal links, organic SEO along with blogging and traditional methods.
Products should be sold motivating people to do the work and NOT just promising the answers.
I think that, like you say, consumers need to say no to these products and hopefully we will rid the internet of these low lifes once and for all. It will not be easy, but if the whole internet community can adopt this attitude one day we could be rid of it.
I come across your site because I got a link
from banner creator, otherwise I never would of known
I really like your post because I’ll think you are right on
the money about what’s going on in the internet, I am a
newbie in the IM world and just like a lot of you uphere
Im just looking to start a decent internet business.
But just like you say I fall for the easy push botton trap and
I am hoping to learn something here. your post It still give me
hopes that there still people upthere who cares about helpng people
like me. who’s been trying to find an answer but looks like everyone
IM is after the quick buck.
What happens with the well known gurus even they are promoting this
crappy products, I am already starting to unsubscribe from some of this
well known gurus email list. I mean they send you an offer from a product
every single day I mean do they expect us to go an buy a product every day.
It do not have any problem for e mailing me every day but send me some content
something of value not a buying products links every single day. What’s happen with
the old days when they used to say start by building a list provide value to your pros-
pects do those way don’t work anymore.
We’ll I do not know because like i said I’m a newbie so I do not know what works only
the Im experts whos has been succesful would know. and because I am a newbie and like I said trying to make something work I even went to flippa and purchase a site here is the proof this is my site if you won’t believe me http://www.supergamesnet.com
But know I need to know how to bring the traffic and stuff so I am hoping that the guys from IM success formula will be able to help all of us who are newbies to Im.
in a professional caring way.
thank you all
God Bless.
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VERY good!!!! Wish I could wright blogs like that.
Great post, very helpful information.
I can say that I have purchased some of the rubbish products over the past few months, and have gotten a refund for all of them (via ClickBank). Yes, the hype looked good, and I thought I might be able to gain at least a little knowledge from the product. Most of them lacked adequate instructions, or the software did not work, or I received zero results if I did try to make it work.
What I wonder … is there a “black book” that the gurus share, of people (like me) who purchase products and get refunds after? (And I am talking only a few purchases in a month, not something every day).I don’t think I have ever asked for an immediate refund. I do take an honest look at the product, and try it out first. But if it’s garbage, I will not let that person keep my money.
Hi Guys
Really informative post and a good follow on from your last one, you are right, the scammers are tapping into desperation but I think it goes deeper than that, I will be one of many now that as soon as I see Clickbank I think is it going to be another scam?
Now that’s damaging because clearly there are some great products coming from it, Clickbank must play their part here, they know who these people are and can’t keep taking the take the money and run view they must stop these people because otherwise everybody suffers including themselves
Thanks for sharing Tony
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Thanksw for your honesty Joren,I hope your product is as real as you say it is. Yes there is a lot of bs out there but part of the im world is understanding what works and what doesn’t.What I found what works is old fashioned hard work nothing else.Have an awesome day man!
This is a great post and right on time. I just went through this year’s launch list, and I see tons of examples, like you mention in the post, coming out. I also got tired from promotions like these.
However, you cannot say bad things about those people – because, if there weren’t demand, nobody would come up with the products like these.
And this is part of life – there are so many people who are not willing to invest time and money to build real business, instead they are jumping from one product to another and never do anything.
Yestarday, I was working on a blog post about website development costs – what it takes to build a successful website. The results could be staggering for somebody, as I am sure most of those Clickbank product buyers never expect costs like these.
Kind regards,
Peter
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I was going to make a post about this IM scam subject to my own marketing list because the subject is important, but you beat me to the punch. Could not agree more with what everything you said and you said a lot with this long post. Well done.
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You are on the money. Lately, I have noticed more and more are beginning to speak up about this bad problem that’s only getting worse. Thank you for the post, and for those interested in some more takes on this subject, please read the open letter from John Delavera http://bz9.com/openletter
This is a pretty heated debate and I find it interesting to see who is defending these practices. Those of you who are interested it names, this will help you some with that.
Thanks,
Pat
This is a great post. Quite honestly, I was just about to unsubscribe from this list as I have become very frustrated with the whole IM thing. Is it obvious I have purchased way too many products that don’t work?
My frustration has led me to a different approach about IM, and that is in the education side of things. While I do not have a big list, I have been recently pointing out to subscribers what to BEWARE of when it comes to this business, and not pitching them every product under the sun. I am not sure if I will succeed with my one e-mail a week philosophy, and only offer free products approach, but I feel I can live with myself more and I sleep a lot better a night.
Thank you for the refreshing post and the info to look out for. It always makes me laugh when I see a product promoted for weeks and the sales copy still says only 3 left. No one in their right mind would stop selling something that makes them money, especially if it works and does what it claims to do.
You, gentleman, are free to offer me anything at anytime, and I am certainly going to look more into my IM Success Formula membership.
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A great informative blog post. Every Internet Marketer needs the truth if we are to make an honest income.
Thank you,
Catherine C.
I agree that there are a lot of unethical and dishonest people online. They care only about themselves and have no problem making money selling products that benefit no one but them. That being said, I will also say that my experience has been that there are a lot of good people online as well and many of them are in the Traffic Exchange Niche, or started there and branched out into other areas of Internet Marketing.
Good post and very timely. I’m not very clued up, but even I have noticed a huge and unpleasant shift recently.
I agree. Even the sales pitch is the same: “I do not know how you got here” is an example how they start their videos or “Stop, I am dead serious”, etc. The popups are agressive. Sometimes it takes me 5x of pressing the ok button to get rid off the popups. The upsells are always misleading. However, I do not want to be negative. If it doesn’t work ask for a refund. Clickbank is very good at that. When I just started IM I did not ask for a refund which I regret for most of the programs I bought. Another thing is their support departments. I wonder whether they really exist. I am even surprised when I get a serious answer. I still have a lot of open tickets. I do not think that they take you (the client) very seriously. They just don’t care. But as I said: Try it and ask for a refund when it doesn’t work. Some of the programs are actually very good. When you contact them and you do not get an answer ask your money back. Sometimes the best software and advise is free.
I actually bought one of these products last year just because I wanted to actually know what the secret was – one of the reasons why blind copy works so well.
After buying I was shocked to find that the secret was to use a script that’s sole aim was to fool the staff at facebook and let you direct link to products that are banned from being advertised! i.e. It how they were getting all the traffic to their salespages, so it was refreshingly honest content that worked, just a shame it was illegal.
Anyway even though I’d bought through my own affiliate link I just had to refund.
Keep up the good work of highlighting what not to do when creating your salespage.
Andrew
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First, I want to point out that I am new to internet marketing only started January 2011. I am about to give it up because I am beginning to feel most it is scam. I bought into several programs that had a different title and a different name but the content had a lot of overlap. When I purchased and activated it was exactly the same. Once in their I discovered that there were a lot of upsell, “it works best if you purchased this, you will make more money if you purchased this, you need a website site, you need a blog, you can have all this at low discount prices’??? But it was only one website and one blog, upgrade to this for only $39.95 and you will get ten. It was money that I didn’t expect to spend to give IM a try. Why didn’t they tell me this up front, if they were honest and illigit??? They promised I would make money in the first week, I haven’t made a cent yet. If I request a refund and try CB Pirate, would I do better? To me it is very difficult to tell the scam product from the illigit ones. If it doesn’t help me make money within a few days or a week, to me it is a scam. They talk about making millions and that I am not motivated enough if I want to make less that $30,000.00 a month. I just want to make some extra money. I would be quit satisfied with $1000.00 a month??? Anyway, this may not be the type of comment you want but I am grateful for the opportunity to vent. Your blog is the first of its kind that I saw so far!!!! Thanks, Baxter a complete newbie and frustrated to the point of throwing in the towel. By the way I am an affiliate with click bank. I promoted CB Pirate but I don’t think it went anywhere?????
Powerful blog hard hitting and gets to the point exactly. Been there more times than i care to mention but always always asked for the full refund. Didnt for a long time then got really pissed off with these scammers. Great posting first class Nick….
There’s no way for newbies to know what’s a scam and what’s not. It’s hard enough for the rest of us. And the scammers can afford to buy the best in sales copywriting.
So, make yourself a promise… you’re never going to buy a product that doesn’t come with a satisfaction (money back) guarantee. In the majority, the scammers don’t offer one.
This is a very good thing that you are doing. I have been trying to make some money online since October 2010. I know, that is not a very long period of time but I will say that I kinda caught on to the “crap” stuff out there fairly early. I truly believe I am one of the few lucky ones that haven’t lost a lot of money. Yes I did buy something that certainly didn’t live up to what they were spouting but I did use some of the information to get my ClickBank account opened. I have looked at what you are selling but am not quite sure what it is I need to do. Is it only drive traffic by using advertising methods like TE’s and Safelists? Then once the “buyer” arrives they have a choice of things to purchase?
After posting these questions, I am hoping you read all of the comments. I guess I will find out if I get a response.
Once again, great job and am looking forward to more posts. I think that it is a very good thing you are doing, by trying to warn us newbies of the pitfalls of the IM business.
Thank you very much,
Peg
Fantastic post, thank you!
Curse those predatory marketers… I agree 110%! However, until WE stop purchasing these junk products, they will continue to prosper – bottom line.
Strangely, we live in the Information Age, yet we have a tendency to act uninformed when it comes to purchasing the various trash products. What ever happened to doing our homework – good old fashioned research? Sites like the Warrior Forum and IMReportCard.com enable us to look up information on the various marketers’ names and products BEFORE we commit to a purchase. Information is available… we just need to be willing to make the time and effort to look it up.
BTW, don’t waste your time searching through the Big G for product reviews. More often than not, the reviews are created as a means for peddling the junk product. In fact, most so-called reviewers haven’t even used the product. Not everyone is a scammer though, so find a reputable IMer you trust and wait for their honest review.
Since most of these products are available through ClickBank, you do get the benefit of their 60-day return policy, so all is not lost. If you can afford it, buy it and test it yourself. And if you truly hate what the predatory marketers are doing, well then post your own honest product review on your blog. We can all be part of the solution.
Regards,
Fred S.
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BS! You say that you don’t want to name names, then you go ahead and name ‘Clickbank Pirate’ and ‘Clickbank Games’. Add to that Dylan Loh, Edmund Loh and Tony Sanders.
Either you don’t want to name names because you don’t have names, or you don’t have the stones to do it. Either way just leaves you limp and emasculated, your thunder gone.
So just name the names if you don’t want us to buy crap, it’s the only way we ‘newbies’ are going to recognize crap for what it is, crap. Your vague innuendos and generalized explanations just don’t cut it, in fact, it sounds just like the scams you are so worried about.
So just do it, or leave it be and stop with making waves, making noises when there is nothing to make noise about, being the boy who cried ‘Wolf’.
No lame excuses, no back pedaling, no obfuscation, no tortuous logic, just the straight out truth.
Otherwise, you are just as guilty of scamming as the scammers themselves.
Did you actually read the post?
It is pointless to try to name the ‘Names’ of the con artists. Only a few consistently put their own name on crap like Paul Darby does.
All this flood of $37 products seem to be from people I’ve never heard of before. Some of the IM products do carry an endorsement (either right in the sales copy or in promo emails) from marketers I recognize.
The best that could be done is to have a list of the marketers whose endorsements can be trusted versus a separate list of the marketers who endorse any piece of crap for a buck.
Wow! The posts and comments here are OUTSTANDING! There are so many things I could comment about that nobody would read this because of my comment’s length, but I wanted to throw out something that I haven’t seen anybody talk about yet…
To me, it’s really ironic that scammers are touting the “little or NO work” angle, because the recent economic downturn is causing HUGE numbers of people who DO understand that success requires (hard) work, and aren’t afraid to actually DO THE WORK that they’re told is necessary to succeed. When the promised rewards don’t materialize, not only can they become discouraged, but some become militantly AGAINST any sort of online business activity – at least from the perspective of ever becoming an online business owner.
Unfortunately, a large number of them really know little or nothing about the internet beyond how to send and receive email (usually via webmail), watch YouTube videos, and to play Farmville on Facebook. They’re intimidated by all of the “techno-jargon” flung around glibly in IM circles, and many of them come to conclude that IM just “too damn complicated” for them to ever master.
And they are so WRONG!
The “mechanical” aspects of an online business aren’t really that difficult to set up these days, with so many “automation” tools at our disposal. It’s the internal MINDSET – a true “spirit of assistance” – that one projects to others in the course of marketing to them that “seals the deal” a large percentage of the time. It’s the very core of “attraction marketing,” but the best of marketing efforts will succeed in the long term ONLY if the product is sound.
As marketers who understand the core PRINCIPLES of successful marketing, I believe that we should not only personally boycott the “weasels” who sell overpriced do-nothing “products” as we find them, but should also notify our “inner circle” people about them, so that they can make a choice about their own associations.
As a general rule, markets are “self-policing,” with inferior products, services – and even marketers and their tactics themselves – disappearing from the landscape because everyone’s “on” to their inadequacies (especially Google). No sales of “product” = No PROFIT, and they’ll shrivel from prominence and disappear into the shadows. Word-of-mouth is still supreme, and the internet gives everyone a global voice. How we use it can make us, and it can break us just as easily.
If we take care of the needs of PEOPLE – the money will follow. That’s not just a good idea – it’s the LAW! ; )
I like what I see here. I’ll definitely be back!
Thanks for yet another hard hitting post.
I certainly hope that this message is being read by some of the less experienced people who are hopeful of becoming online marketers.
It’s hard enough for those of us who have been around this scene for a few years but I feel sorry for the people who think that they are going to make their fortune overnight
by buying the next Bright Shiny Object.
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks for the valuable information. I think I have fallen once or twice for some of these scams. Wise lessons learned.
Regards Piet Hein
I’m guilty….guilty of the exact thing. Being a newbie online myself I’ve found out the hard way not to jump to the first thing that comes through your email. I’m like Ken that posted before me. I now scroll all the way down the page if its to long. And I also sometimes will click off the page just to see if it goes to a cheaper price. But I’ve also seen the so called new product launch which I’ve seen about 7 or 8 months ago, usually from the same names and new affiliates. I have come to the conclusion to listen to the inter voice it will guide you through. And I also look at it from another way too. Because sometime you don’t have the money at that moment to purchase, but if you can go back later and its still around and if you re-read the page, most likely, if its something worth getting I’ll purchase it.
I also would like to add that the idea of everything being sooo easy is just so left field. If anyone thinks that doing nothing will produce something is dreaming. I’ve always been told that hard work dedication and honesty will take you along way.
I’ve enjoyed reading this post. Thanks for the insight.
Claudia
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Thank you for this informative post.
I see many times people who are just trying to get a little bit ahead having thier hope of being financially independent taken away by the well written ‘products’ and ‘programs’ out there that promise instant wealth. I believe that a lot of the people fall for them out of desperation. When you lose a job today, get laid off or get sick and are unable to work, the sense of doom and the thought of losing everything you have is overpowering… kind of like a drowning person who grasps on to anything they can possibly reach in an attempt to save themselves.
I have been there!
In everything I promote, I try to remember that the other people out there, especially the newbies to online marketing, are just like me…. Probably living paycheck to paycheck with no savings, nothing to fall back on … And that $10 they may spend could be the last $10 they have to their name. Therefore, I try only to ever promote things that have worked for me personally.
I guess it helps when you are not too far removed from the financial situation of the other newbies out there… lol.
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Hi Soren, John and Cindy,
THANKS for the ‘scam’ info …. I have bought into a lot of these things and,
I have refunded on most of them but, sorting out which is good and which
isn’t, isn’t as easy as you say it is ….. some are very convincing and, to buy
is, fairly, the only way that one can be sure .
Whilst I am here and, not being negative, I have to comment about your
“Clickbank Pirate” …. now, I’m not the best promoter in the world, in fact,
I would go so far as to say I am the worst but ….. I am marketing this product
and have, had what I would see as, quite a few people sign up to this but …
so far … not a ‘bean’ have I had from this product, in sales so …. what’s wrong
here then?
Again, THANKS for the Informative post ….
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Best Regards, David A-L
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Hey David,
Glad to see you are giving CBPirate a good go
Building a list is a funny thing, you can slave away for ages, and not
have any buying customers, then get a few people who buy everything
we mail about. The thing to keep in mind is that you are building a
longterm business strategy here – the people you bring in are getting
emails from us (with your clickbank ID) until they unsubscribe, so
if you keep doing what you are doing, you will find success eventually.
By the way, have you got our training team’s personal email address?
As a CB Pirate member, you get direct access to our team support, so
you can ask her questions about making it all work better etc. If you
haven’t’ got it, send a support ticket to our guys here: http://sjcsupport.com
and tell them that Cindy said you need the personal member support
for Clickbank Pirate (the email address) – sorry, don’t wanna post it
publicly here
- Cindy
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Hi Cindy, I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
However … I would suspect that all your support are going to tell me is … “Promote it MORE” so … if I have had NO success / sales , from the number of people that I have already got ‘interested’ then, why would I want to “Promote MORE”? And, since I have no access to ANY tracking or anything then, how do I know that the people I AM bringing in are not unsubscribing / have unsubscribed?
OK, I’ll get in touch with your support people but, I aint holding my breath that what they will tell me IS Any different to what I have said, above..
THANKS, again, for your time.
Regards ……
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You’re so right, Cindy. It’s my own personal belief that if given the choice between saturation-bombing my list with offers (and hope for more sales than unsubscribes), or actually communicating with them and building a long-term relationship with them (even though I may not make a single dime from them), I always opt for the latter.
People who believe they can achieve long-term success by simply “pushing a button” have no real comprehension of what true success really is, even though “success” has as many different definitions as there are people.
Nor do they have an understanding of what the function of a business actually is, namely to provide solutions and/or benefits to people who have a need or want for those solutions. Most people mistakenly think that the function of a business is for the business owner to make money, but making money is simply a by-product of accomplishing the real function, which I just described.
I’ve been likening the scumbags to “carnival barkers” for years now, as I watched them try to sell people their own hopes dreams, rather than a means to achieve them (which typically requires stealing those hopes and dreams from them in order to sell them back.
Have to say I completely agree with you Soren and also want to congratulate you on these “I had it!” series of posts because I can relate to them 100%, keep up the good work!
Pretty good stuff. I’ve been taken in a lot and am really tired of the empty promises, too. Your post is to the point and I believe what you say to be very truthful…
Thanks for the excellent post. We are bombarded with such emails everyday, and the sad part is it takes time to go thru them all to find the legitimate deals, and many times they get overlooked. For instance, who wants to sit and listen to a video for 15 minutes and they still haven’t come to the main point you are waiting for. Who’s got that kind of time to waste, let alone, borrring. Sorry, just had to vent!!
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Terrific blog post, I actually look ahead to messages from you.
A superb posting. Everything you say rings true but it still amazes me that people would even read the promotions simply based on the email headings themselves never mind buy the products. IM appears to be getting more and more dominated by the scammers. It distresses me that people continue to be taken in by all of the BS.
One of the first ebooks I read when I started in IM was Soren’s “Internet Marketing Success Formula” and I still consider it to be the best thing I did. I am a dedicated user of Clickbank Pirate which is one of the most professionally put together products that you will find and it consistently earns me money.
I can’t wait for the next posting and for IMSF 2.
Hi, just stop to say I enjoyed your post not to mention what I learn from it. I myself got sucked into a couple of the scams thank god for click bank and pay pal looking out for their customers or I most likely paid someones house payment. I’m learning, so I posted your post to face-book and Ill be posting it where ever I can, maybe we can all come together to try and make the Internet a better place for us all.
Thank you Mike! We totally appreciate your support, and yes – hope
that something great will come out of all of this!
- Cindy
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Very accurate posting and a darn good read. I’ve jumped into more of these buckets than I care to admit just to find out that there is no substitute for real work. Have posted this on Facebook and Twitter.
Thanks again for a great post,
Ron
Hi, a newbie has no idea what is a scam and what is not. A newbie does not even know where to start making money online. A “green” newbie does not understand that there are certain steps one has to take before he or she CAN make money online, so when they buy their first product that that is going to make them lots of money every week, ‘cos, even a newbie or 12 year old can DO this..they think they have it made, until they get the product. They can’t understand the product, how it works or what they need to do, so they keep looking for the next easy money maker. A green newbie, who has just decided to “make money online” today, cannot even work out blogger, so how are they going to understand anything they buy, be it a scam or not? Unless they have a brother in the biz, they just have to learn from their mistakes, and this takes time.(and a lot of money) It took me 2 years to be able to recognize the true, sincere and legit business men and women, who run their business like professionals and reek of quality. A newbie does not know what questions to ask if offered some training, they just say “yes” and pay the money, only to find out they are going to have a shop on ebay..that they didn’t want. I think back to reading a 20 page squeeze page, about how rich I could be, and by the time I got to the end I was soooo psychologically brainwashed and just had to have that product, even though they never told me once, what I had to do to make that money. God I feel stupid today. I even bought something “even a newbie could do”, only to find all I had to do was copy and paste a small bit of code into my web page, and triple my sales!! ( I didn’t have a webpage, nor did I know how to get one, so I was up the creek again!) So, if you don’t know what you are buying, or how it works, don’t buy it. And don’t you hate those videos that are 30 mins long and you have NO control over them? Anyway, eventually it becomes clear that there is no magic and you have to do some learning and some work….you can’t automate mindset.
I agree with what you say. We were all newbies at one time and it is hard to know what is good and what isn’t. Just as Cindy pointed out, there are some good products that have questionable marketing hype. So what is a newbie to do? Good question. I don’t have an answer. I was lucky enough to find a good mentor a couple of years ago and I’ve learned a lot. But I also have tons of stuff sitting around on my computer gathering dust because I STILL don’t know how to use it, I don’t want to use it, it was the latest and greatest at that time but now it’s crap, etc.
I think all we can do is continue to offer our own quality products and/or services, try to keep educating people through these blogs and other social media, and do our best.
We can’t regulate the bad guys. We just have to keep being the good guys. Promote each other so that our influence is seen as much as possible.
As you can see by all of the other comments, you’re in good company Glenda.
When I was forced to “retire” from my chosen career as a field technician in the office imaging industry (due to a back injury), I turned to the internet for solutions – and instead, found even more problems! Even though I had what most would consider “technical aptitude,” I found myself floundering around and not knowing what to do, let alone how to do it.
I understood that I needed to educate myself, but I didn’t know exactly where to find a trustworthy source of that education, so I jumped on the email lists of a large number of “marketers” and started looking for the common denominator possessed by those whose real-world success could be confirmed.
I concluded that if I was going to earn the equivalent (or more) of a college graduate, I would have to invest an equivalent amount of effort and study of internet marketing that one would expect to put forth to earn a degree…
Far from “easy” – but the best investment I ever made in myself – even after all of the “junk” I bought, my total monetary investment is still nowhere close to what it costs to get even a Bachelor Degree.
It all boils down to creating the mindset that you will figure things out, because you want to learn what’s necessary.
As for the source of your “studies” – you’ve found an excellent resource right here. Hang in there! Contrary to popular opinion, good people don’t always finish last!
Wow! You really nailed it on the head. This information should be printed out and posted on everyone’s computer screens. Seriously, we all need to take a good look at what we are contemplating purchasing. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a turd. LEAVE IT ALONE, it stinks! Thanks for not being afraid of telling it like it is.
That is bang on!!
Straight up and true.
Our Master Mind Marketing Group focuses on
the 2 most important things the majority does not
seem to study and learn…
MIND SET AND MARKETING.
I wonder if there is a correlation here.
The majority don’t make money…so what are they doing?
Looking for THE BIG RED EASY BUTtON.
It’s simple really.
When you focus in only on a target market…
Send promotional ads and messages that
are designed to attract and compel ONLY them…
But the blinders on to all the hype out there…
And let the system answer 99% of their questions
with no hype, fluff or nonsense…
Then people will “see” how it will work for them.
As they flow through the process and see how
much money they will make with each sale…
How much they will earn from each team sale…
And how much residual in.come they will start
to generate as their team grows (through duplication),
then they get really motivated and make the decision
to “hire” this system to do the same for them…
They’re practically “in” already as they pick up
the phone to chat with us mainly to find out if
we are really here. :0)
We focus on duplicating from the very first step
and follow through all the way down the system.
And no I don’t build MLM or Network Marketing.
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Confirmation of what I have learned over the last few months, thanks.
Thank you for the excellent commentary Soren, John and Cindy. Newbies take heed!
Yes, it’s likely you’ve ruffled a few feathers on some old birds. But, as they say, the truth hurts sometimes! Thanks for always being honest with us.
Faye Jones
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Cool post but I’ve got one thing (negative to say) which is that it’s a shame ‘Tony T-Dub Sanders’ has the same testimonials on each sales page for most of his gaming products.
Ok … I’ve not spent hours analyzing each one but several have several photos of different people who all say “I don’t have much time to play FarmVille but I just love the fact that with minimal play, I have managed to maximize my [insert theme]” then you get a sneaky suspicion that there is … a massive co-incidence : )
It’s just not cricket and takes away from the respect you have for Tra .. I mean Tony.
On a plus side – hats off to the guy for lifting the lid on the gaming niche and revealing how much money can be made from info-products that help out the gamers.
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I do not play games on line unless you can call all the products that I try and get nowhere as games????
YAY!
Someone actually said what I’ve been saying as a copywriter… most blind sales letters totally get massive returns.
The internet marketing noise is increasing so fast its amazing. We’re bombarded out there with different launches every day.
So being able to spot the scammy ones is a brilliant tool to have.
Thank you for sharing and looking forward to the relaunch of your IMSF pdf.
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I have to say thanks for sharing this information with the internet world. All the BS out there is what causes Brain Overload and total confusion to someone new in Internet marketing. When someone checks into starting an online business , affiliate marketing or internet marketing this page should be the first page to pop up. Glad to see people who tell it like it is, kinda like WYSIWYG. Thanks again for sharing and caring enough to help us all.
Two ISSUES covered in this reply:
First ISSUE:
I do not appreciate all the cheap packages that are actually an entry into a sales funnel for an over-priced mentoring course that is sold thru a boiler room. I mean, you can hear numerous other phone calls in the background and the phone numbers are actually shown on certain websites as ones that operate a hyped marketer’s op.
Yes, I know that Brunsen operates his own call center, but others are now doing a ‘knock-off’ of him too.
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SECOND ISSUE
All of the mentors who allow access to their list to promote a webinar MUST vet the guys that they are ‘co-webinaring’ with.
I get some webinar approaches that do NOT identify the knuckle-head – I mean marketer – that is being brought onto the webinar. If I SEE the name “Paul Darby”, I will not even sign up. But if I do not know who someone I THOUGHT I could trust is foisting on me via a webinar, I will have worked that webinar into my schedule.
Paul Darby is a scumbag. I had a very bad experience with his support person and also with him. Their software scripts a buggy (and they will refuse to fix problems/deny problems exist) and he also NEVER provided a video ad for me. I paid well over $100 for the ad package and could not get it or my money delivered/returned. The video was to be run on an ad network that his offer connected you with. That advertising company contacted me, asking for the video but even THEY could not get my video out of Darby, whom they had apparently worked with in the past.
Google ‘Paul Darby’ and you will see complaints. I did not even list my own on those sites. Only last month (or early this month) when I was fooled into being on a webinar where Darby again was pitching his TV ads, I commented via the caht that Darby had problems with support (I did not comment about the problem with Darby himself) and the reply was that there was a new person running the back-office. The complaints reported have continued, from the looks of what showed up in the Google search.
So VET the guys you present on webinars VERY thoroughly. Do not even bother to ‘vet’ Darby.
I hope I do not see him promoted again. The next time I DO, I will contact the marketer telling him WHY he has lost me as a customer.
When the scumbags are promoted, we need to opt out of the lists of those promoting them.
Hi guys
I totally agree with everything that you said. These scammers do hype up their products to the hilt and prey on unqualified and green newbiews (most of the time) to make their millions of dollars online.
I had an exact problem when I purchased a product the other day where when I go to register it I got millions of pop ups a far more expensive product but listen to this it wasn’t even connected to the first product I bought. So from what I can see these marketers are now using other people’s programs etc. as their own upsells and making us believe that they use it and they have developed it. Yes I definitely agree with you that this has to stop.
There are a couple of places that I will tend to go to try and check out the legitimacy of someone and that is to IM report Card, and Warrior forum. I have found that the truth comes out here and then you can make a better informed decision sometimes.
Thank you for writing your post I am in 100% agreement with you and by the way I have just bought the cb gamers product because as you said it was not full of hype, also they have a fair price and so I jumped on the bandwagon.
Lesley
Sorry guys I got so carried away with myself, somewhere at last to get on the old soap box that I totally made a boo boo and put the wrong address for my site. So it should read: http://www.domesticwaterfilters.net.
Thanks again
Lesley
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Thank you very much for the article, I actually learned a lot from it. Very quality content on this blog. Always looking forward to new entry.
Excellent post. I have only been in the internet marketing business for a few months now and I have already caught on to the scammers. At first it was a single page they were posting on the buy this at this price before allowing you over to the product you purchased and more recently, I have been seeing the lowered price pages coming second with an added “bonus freebie”. I just laugh and continue to the bottom of the page and bypass the whole thing to view what I just got myself into for free. Then I determine if I should cancel the freebie account or not.
I will definitely get the word out for this blog though. Excellent information for all. Thank you!!
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THANK YOU!!!
You have summed-up my IM experieces for the last eight months.
I have purchased every scam in the business and have been so disappointed and discouraged that I wanted to discontinue my efforts. It was a great learning experience and I am grateful for the education.
I will have to say that your CB Pirate is the best IM site I have found. The information and the detailed explanation the most informative I have found.
Needless to say I have received my refund for all the “crap” I have purchased but I won’t be asking for a refund for your program and the continued information you provide.
Thanks again! I look forward to your continued sharing.
Regards,
Melissa
Thanks Melissa! I am glad that you are enjoying your time with CBP – and look forward to seeing you around some more!
- Cindy
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Thanks for a very informative article. I don’t know how many people are also being pestered by what I believe to be con artists selling IM coaching, but these emails and adverts are just driving me nuts lateley. I found a very informative article called “Internet Marketing Mentoring: They are all scams”, where the blog author really rips into 2 very well-known and influential IM mentors. It’s a helluva good example of exactly what you’re warning against. If anybody’s interested, check it out at http://www.janvanrensburg.com.
Here’s my two cents on the whole “product launch” thing.
I mean to be honest, I don’t think you can just rely on one solid product to generate monthly automate income for you. For two reasons:
1) Your product might go out of fashion
2) Product launches are great for building your list and getting new long term customers (through JV partners and affiliates)
So I guess to say having a product launch isn’t that bad if your products are solid products of course. It also depends on how people “react” to these products. I’m a big fan of personal development and psychology and sometimes people succeed not because they bought a solid product, but a normal product which can get them motivated to keep taking action might just do the trick
But yeah I totally agree with hype is good if you have good content and solid products to back. Thanks for the post!
Mike that’s true. Having seen both sides does make it easier to spot the scams. I do think though that learning enough about the clever marketing tactics used can also help people to spot the offers to steer clear of or those to consider.
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